Sandro Galea sat down with Manya Chylinski to challenge the default American habit of treating health as something we address only once it breaks down. Galea — physician, epidemiologist, and founding dean of the Bursky School of Public Health at Washington University in St. Louis — made the case for a more practical frame: health as infrastructure requiring continuous investment, which means prevention and the social determinants of health, not just clinical care. He pushed back on resilience as personal grit, describing it instead as a capacity to recover that depends heavily on context, and drew on his healthiest goldfish metaphor to make the invisible forces around us visible — from community conditions to the cultures we create at work. The conversation ranged from loneliness and social connection to the long tail of pandemic recovery, and kept returning to the question underneath all of it: how do we balance individual freedom against responsibility to the collective?
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